What do I draw from the process of taking this class? I believe a greater appreciation for the diversity of perspectives concerning the religious experience. It’s exciting to know that this dialogue is happening, and that I can participate in it through reading, thought, and writing (and probably other ways, too).
It was interesting to learn a little bit about Keirkegard, whom I had heard about when I was younger and had different thoughts and beliefs about the world. He, too, was a shadowy figure for the people in my life. I think he represented a radical departure from the norm. I had the feeling he was highly critical of people who claimed they were “believers” but did not act accordingly. They are “just going along,” or “doing the company line,” and so are in fact alientated from God, according to Keirkegard.
Feuerbach was very interesting – I can see how others like Durkheim and Marx took the principle of projection, which he seems to have established concerning religious faith and beliefs, and extended it to their particular fields of interest. I think it is particularly interesting thinking about the phrase, “the word became flesh” – demonstrating his idea concerning the “incarnation” or reification of supernatural properties.
His idea about being alienated, I believe, also is a first principle from which projection originates. His belief that we have qualities about ourselves which we are separated from, and that this is voluntary, seems true to me. I’m not on board with his ideas about humans having god-like properties, but that’s alright. Also, his idea that the “real Christinity” was something else entirely seemed far-fetched. Christianity – survives if “unconsciously held” – this is interesting, and I will have to think more on it. Perhaps this indicates the degree to which Feuerbach believes we are deluding ourselves when we separate aspects of ourselves from our own identity, particularly when we only identify with the negative qualities.
I also think that the phrase, “the secret of religion is atheism,” or that “hidden in religion is atheism.” Perhaps this is why Feuerbach believed that religion must be held loosely in our minds. If religion is in fact studying our own minds (which I believe is true, to a certain degree), then it seems true his statement that theology is a type of anthropology (or psychology) – a “study of humans.”
I really liked the idea that once we have an idea _______ (fill in the blank – God, puppy, bobsled), we automatically assign it meaning or else it is simply a senseless sound or scribbles on a paper. I do like the basic principle that whatever we fill in for this blank will reflect back on ourselves.
Hegel’s phenomenology of spirit concerning the master-slave relationship seems to kind of fit with Christianity’s insistence upon absolute obedience – or else we should expect eternal torture – seems to fit in this category. However, while I do believe that religion does arise from oppression, I would have to learn more about Hegel to understand him better. From my understanding, his take seems limited. Also, his idea about “God coming to know himself” seems to be far-fetched.
I also enjoyed the exercize concerning the “existence” of nothing. This was fascinating, and while I had concluded before this that “nothing” was nothing if not impossible, it was actually very exciting to talk about it in class and to seem to come to some degree of concensus on the issue. If there has always been something, then perhaps this does not disprove God, but I believe that if there’s something other than God to work with, then we’re on that track.
Angels and miracles -this was a fun exercise as well. I’m glad we talked about this in class. It is something that is overlooked all the time within religion: “So and so got better: what a miracle!” “I got the job: what a miracle! These types of statements rarely (if ever) make sense.
I do not think I agree with Phillips statement that faith claims are not “intellctual assents.” I think that included within faith is an assent to its truth, whether we can physically or otherwise verfy its truth.
I agree with Philips to be careful, however, I don’t know if it is possible to not have preconceived notions about religion. Just like any other matter, it seems that we will have made up our mind before we know it oftentimes. But keeping an eye open to this, and like he advises, to be careful – I think these are good ways of living in general, not just with regards to religion.
I like the idea that there is a thin line between what “works for me” and then what I believe is a rule for everyone. The matter of moral truths not being metaphysical reality – for this part I’m not sure I’m on board. There may not be ghostly substances floating around out there called moral truths, however, this does not seem to negate that certain actons are better to be done and others are harmful and should be prevented. Maybe I’m not contradicting (I believe this was) Phillips, in fact.
Returning to the matter of “truth statements” concerning faith – I do think that the statement, “God exists” contains within it a statement that is believed to be actual Fact. Actually, there is nothing more real or existent than God, from my understanding of some Christian traditions. This statement is not just a fact, but it includes what I believe is intended as a factual statement.
It also makes sense that we cannot try and throw all believers and practicitioners of faith and religion into “one sack.” It simply does not make sense. There are billions of people on the Earth, and each one has a particular story, a particual psychology – so in effect, there are as many different religions people as there believers – or even on a larger way of looking at things, every single person is a member of this larger church of individuals who live lifes of profound consequences (this may be taking things too far, but I still think the idea is interestin.
Finding where the individual theoriest went right and wrong is an interesting process. There are so many angles on religion, and some no doubt have more of the picture than others. However, how many ways can I describe a human being? Our descriptions are of a process, than a static being. However, I do believe that there are certain things about human beings that are true quite a bit of the time (this is common within the social sciences) – however if we can arrive at something which seems to hold true a lot of the time, this is actually quite the accomplishment.
I liked Prof. Pam’s question about if a person who has “lost” her faith has contradicted herself. It points out the nature of belief, and that each one of us is dynamic and moving. To reject what we believed yesterday in favor of new, more compelling evidence is not a contradiction, but very often learning. Otherwise, we would never update our minds at all to take in new information. Why should it be any different with religion? God is an idea about which you believe has actual substance and relevence or not. It is as simple as that, to me, when put this way.
I also liked her imagery with the “picture” which adjusts and shifts according to events in a person’s life. In this case, we are always in the picture (I don’t think we mentioned this in class). There is no way of escaping being in our assumed perecptions of the world.
So, the bottom line for me is to be open and try to learn as much as possible. It is better to be ignorant and humble than wise and arrogant. The humble person listens; the arrogant person talks. I want to make sure that my talknig is consistent with my beleifs to respect other people and to be open to their views. It doesn’t mean I will agree with them, but to listen with an open attitude seems important. It’s a huge world (or a small world) depending on how much we are willing to let in and open up to in this incredible world. This is what I’ve discovered about philosophy, is the possiblity, and actual encouragement to explore the world and angles and options – in this way, I have come to appreciate and love this ongoing process, this continual unfolding: it reflects the process of life itself, I believe. Learning is amazing and can be fun and actually exciting, when thinking deeply – contemplating and reflecting – on aspects of our world and ourselves, as composing a part of this world.
Yes, I agree with Phillips in this regard, let us have an approach to life of wonder!